Peers petition Queen on Europe – ABOUT BLOODY TIME!
Posted on 20 May 2010 by admin
>FOUR peers invoked ancient rights under the Magna Carta yesterday to petition the Queen to block closer integration with Europe.
The Duke of Rutland, Viscount Masserene and Ferrard, Lord Hamilton of Dalzell and Lord Ashbourne were imbued with the spirit of the ancient Charter, thrust on King John in 1215. In accordance with the Charter’s Clause 61, the famous enforcement clause, the four presented a vellum parchment at Buckingham Palace, declaring that the ancient rights and freedoms of the British people had to be defended.
The clause, one of the most important in the Charter, which was pressed on King John at Runnymede, allows subjects of the realm to present a quorum of 25 barons with a petition, which four of their number then have to take to the Monarch, who must accept it. It was last used in 1688 at the start of the Glorious Revolution.
The four peers, who were all thrown out of Parliamentin November 1999, proved they had that quorum by presenting Sir Robin Janvrin, the Queen’s private secretary, with the petition signed by 28 hereditaries and letters of support from another 60. In addition, they claim the support of thousands of members of the public.
They say that several articles in the Treaty of Nice agreed by Tony Blair in December will destroy fundamental British liberties. The Queen has 40 days to respond. Under the Magna Carta’s provisions, if the Sovereign does not observe the Charter the people may rise up and wage war on her, seizing castles, lands and possessions until they have redress.
Credit; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1327734/Peers-petition-Queen-on-Europe.html
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Hello Raymond, I love your website and what you do, but did you realise this story is over 9 years old? Is there any info on the outcome?
Yep – I did but put it up to demonstrate the validity of the process.
so, what was the outcome, if you know???
I think it was ignored – looking into it.
When was the petition sent in? It says the article was written on 24th March 2001.
Around about 2001 – we are trying to find out what happened.!
How on earth can you consider that these heriditary peers can somehow make you free? The only rights they have were non-consenually acquired during the Norman conquest. Their validity derived directly from shooting King Harold in the eye with an arrow and hacking the limbs off any saxons or britons who dared oppose them. I suggest you watch the Monty Python and the Holy Grail sequence about supreme executive power and farcical aquatic ceremonies.
Your opinion, you are entitled to it – I don’t agree with it and I am entitled to that view!
Do you or do you not support the right to own vast tracts of land based only on hereditary succession? Do you support the non-consensual invasion of a foreign country and the slaughtering of the peasantry? Granted, peasants (serfs) were not ‘freemen’, so under feudal law you could do pretty much what you liked with them. But do you feel that is morally valid?
Regardless of what I think or what view I hold – it was a THOUSAND Years ago! What difference is it going to make, right now, today, what I think or feel.
I tried to post a reply a couple of times but nothing appeared – not sure what the problem is. I’ll try again!
Despite the Norman Invasion being over a THOUSAND years ago, is influence IS still felt today: the hereditary Peers referred to in your article are the direct descendents of these Norman robber barons! And they STILL own the majority of the geographical land area of these islands! People like the Duke of Westminster, the Duke of Sutherland and a certain Saxe-Coburg family. Have you ever read “Who Owns Britain?” by Kevin Cahill?
Ray,
PMFJI, I have just noticed this post about the Barons Petition in 2001.
I was one of the resarchers for the Magna Carta Society which started this project.
To answer the question about the status of the Peers, they represent the common law rights of property owners in our constitution.
To answer the question about how they gained their property, the god of battles decided in their favour in 1066 and they took over administration of The Realm according to common law principles. That was lawful.
Here is a link to my Blog about the petition:
http://magnacartasocietyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/magna-carta-society-petition.html
Regarding the outcome of the petition, Elizabeth Saxe-Coberg-Gotha did not change her measures within 40 days and until The Barons Committe say otherwise lawful rebellion is authorised.
Regards, John H.